The Circle And Triangle Symbol
I wonder how many know that the Circle and Triangle symbol, seen in so many places, is not trademarked by AA.
Anonpress.org is an extensive AA resource and has a list of FAQ’s at their site. Someone asked “Why did AA stop using the circle and triangle symbol?”
Because;
“What happened was that after many years of using the symbol and claiming it as a trademark, AA World Service tried to stop non-AA companies from using it on things like anniversary chips.
In this process they learned that the symbol had been in wide spread use, even in temperance societies, well before AA existed. Because of that AA never had a legitimate claim to ownership of the symbol and stopped using it.
You can read more about this at this link.”
At “this link” we find a fellow named “Barefoot” (hey - what do I know?) who details how it was discovered that AA didn’t have a trademark on the Circle and Triangle.
Barefoot also tells us “The circle and triangle is not ‘banned by A.A.,’ just discontinued since 1993 as a trademark.”
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40 opinions for The Circle And Triangle Symbol
Mary Christine
Apr 27, 2006 at 9:00 pm
I love my old books because they still have the circle and triangle on them. I really have a fondness for that logo. Thanks for visiting my blog today.
markw
Apr 27, 2006 at 9:07 pm
Hi Mary Christine,
It’s so nice that you’ve returned the visit, thanks.
I understand how you feel about the logo.
Mark
shannon
Apr 27, 2006 at 10:42 pm
yea I know its not trademarked… but I know what I feel when I see it
markw
Apr 28, 2006 at 6:03 am
Thanks for stopping by Shannon :-)
RMStringer
Mar 27, 2007 at 6:45 pm
I am 4 years recovered in MAY. i am starting a series of posts about my recovery on my blog. Please go and let me know what you think.
Http://renigade.blogspot.com is the address.
Mark
Mar 28, 2007 at 7:04 am
Let you know what I think? First - I appreciate your stopping by MY Blog :)
Second, why is it that you’re the second person calling themselves “recovered” who has stopped by this Blog and “promoted” their own Blog (or recovery book)?
In the interest of my readership - who might just benefit from these types of things (I hope not to be the judge of that) I’ll leave your link up for now as I did Danny’s. But what I think is - that it is very irritating that you “recovered” folks all seem to have a self-centered motive when you get here and that is NOT what recovery calls for! So, I hope you’re not here to attempt to push “recovered” on my readership. That’s what I think…
Mike p
Mar 28, 2007 at 7:23 am
just a note next time your getting gas look down and around for the circle and triangle where they fill up the underground tanks “its on the cover”
And by the way I’m 17 years “recovered ” can i go home now ? LMFAO “Good Lord” what a trip stop labeling yourself it may lead to a drink , THINK
I’m an arms length away from a drink at any given moment and if my complicated mind figures out that I can recover from this disease , then for me that is that a drink is not too far off , then again there’s the mind set that says we get back what we once had in other words “recover” I know what i had before i stopped and i’m not sure i want it back , so to recover or regain is nonsense to me , i;ll stick with one day at a time not drinking and going to meetings putting my hand out and working “to the best of my ability the twelve steps of AA . and yes i know it says recovered in the Big Book . {just my thoughts } love ya
Mark
Mar 28, 2007 at 8:11 am
Love It! Thanks Mike…
Got a bizzy day ahead, lots to do, off from Dillards, want to call you, have to have a call from London believe it or not, oh, just bunches o’ stuff! lol… lawn, baseboard moldings, I’ll find something else (or she will blecch).
Hope to call you later dude…
RMStringer
Mar 28, 2007 at 1:37 pm
Chris Rayme, a personal friend that is the La Hacienda Alumni director has “Recovered” I dont have to drink/drug anymore. I have “recovered from a hopless state of mind and body. The craving is gone and the obsecession has been lifted!! SO if you have to live your life “recovering”, so be it, I dont!! It must feel bad to be recovering all the time and never reach the goal of being well or recovered…
Mark
Mar 28, 2007 at 2:19 pm
You asked what I thought and I told you what I thought. If you have nothing better to do than manipulate others into your willful agenda then you sure as hell aren’t recovered!
What is your agenda? The same as the last person - you’re a control freak who can’t stand it when someone disagrees and you have to have it your way or you character assassinate them to proclaim your own self-righteousness.
Reach the goal of being well or recovered? Who the hell are you kidding? After a lifetime of self-centeredness, you’re cured? In four years? Someone has been leading you down a rosy path pal and you might want to find your own reality check - soon!
Mark
Mar 28, 2007 at 2:24 pm
BTW - how nice of you to offer Chris’s full name… I guess recovered folks have no need for the principle of anonymity either huh? Or for One Day At A Time and keeping it in the moment. May is when? Truth is, you’re NOT four years sober! You’re three years and 10 months “sober.”
More evidence of FOS…
Mike p
Mar 28, 2007 at 3:18 pm
i GUESS RECOVERED and recovering are being cut up by people who think they know how other people “must feel” therein lies the difference as for i MUST not have to FEEL a certain way someone puts on me again, T H I N K
The thing with the word recovered is that it can be mis-used by the newcomer who may feel fixed and or cured. Coming out of rehabs they may feel cured and can go on and regain what they left behind. I am in recovery for over 17 years and ya know what for me the day I’m recovered may be the day i start making money off the sick and suffering alcoholic and its my life experience that tells me when that happens my sobriety loses its priority and i find myself with the drink or the drug. just my thoughts.
and by the way watch out who you put on the pedestal. I found the person I put there and quoted in my early recovery {or recovered time} is now dead after running a rehab. Lighten up and focus on the steps and leave the crusade to others more experienced. Don’t think don’t drink and go to meetings.
Trust God and clean house. And this too shall pass newbie. :) love ya
Mike p
Mar 29, 2007 at 5:34 am
I GOT A SMILEY FACE “ALRIGHT!” :)
Mike p
Mar 29, 2007 at 6:18 am
WOW I just got back from the newbies post . This kid needs a sponsor, have ya checked it out , its like Hunter with time on his hands. I feel sorry for the boy but its “his journey” soo self absorbed . At four years still reliving the rehab mumbo jumbo and idealizing the addicts in the front office , “danger danger Will Robinson Danger” Makes one think when was the last time this kids been to a meeting on the outside ? Ya know my story thank God I hadn’t had this thing all figured out at my 1.395 day of being away from a drink hell at my 6.292 day give or take {i suck at the math } still have nt figured this “GOD THING OUT ” as the newbie states , I hope he realizes we are trying to help and not hurt , I pray this part of his journey{ the selfish part } goes quietly and painful without the drink or a drug through pain we grow .
I was told to give this thing back the way I got it , and that’s all and if feeling are hurt well that’s just too bad :(
Love ya all
Mike P
Mark
Mar 29, 2007 at 6:40 am
Ah, my friend… he’s not unique or unusual in any way!
When I was three years I went through emotional hell during a divorce BUT I had a firm foundation under my butt!
These folks obviously will never change - they THINK they have it but when the RUBBER meets the road i.e. life jumps up and bites them with something unexpected or something they haven’t learned how to apply the steps to, they are lost.
He isn’t the first and won’t be the last. I can also only pray he “gets” it before it is too late.
I can’t forget to add this: Have you noticed how totally clueless he is about Traditions? Seems like this is true of most of these “recovered” folks…
Take Care Mr. P.
M
Mark
Mar 29, 2007 at 6:46 am
Laff my friggin a** off - Hunter with time on his hands??? That’s hilarious!
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RMStringer
Mar 29, 2007 at 9:59 am
To be very honest with you Mike P. IT is because of cynical old crusty “Old Timers” that the fellowship is dyeing, not “Recovered” people like me. Feel very smug in your 17 “wonderful” years as a saint. Feel secure that you have helped as many souls as you could have and feel secure that AA will go on in spite of you and your recovering self. I, simply put, am telling how the 12 steps apply to me and that is it. I thought i found a resource to help me, but it turns out, all i found was a cynical old timer that is bitter that life the illusion of happiness has passed him by. It is because of people like yourself that a sick person might pass on and not get the help because of the self righteous rhetoric that your mouth spews forth. I have been too many meetings with people like you and I never returned because you thought that you way was the best. Remember a person cannot work your “program” and you can’t work theirs. Perhaps you take pity on me, say that I am sick, but in the end; in my recovery and recovered state I take pity on your miserable self. True, my sober days have not been all fun and games, but I am living life on its terms with turmoil in my life. I don’t drug or drink, because I have the choice today because I am recovered to that time when I had a choice about 20 years ago. SO feel good about yourself, Great going, you lost another one to your rhetoric and supremacy in AA…
Peace out my brother and have a check with your sponsor. Old timers like yourself kill suffering people because of how self-righteous you feel. It makes me sick to hear your mouth open and I would NEVER attend a meeting that you chair or head…
Mike p
Mar 29, 2007 at 10:50 am
wow look at you. go on get it out its good to get all that venom out better you do it here where we can all keep an opened mind . I really would take offence to what you said but who has nt been where you are , do yourself a favor “never” say never if you decide that I have the power to keep you from a meeting and that’s the only meeting around well you should know what comes after that , First of all you have nt a clue of what you think you know of me BOB! I don’t pretend to know you , what I do know is when I see someone who is really getting off on insulting people because there to afraid to look at themselves so you need not take cheap shoots you are nt much younger then me in “life” so just do your best to keep an open mind , I put down the drink and was asked by “crusty old timers what i was willing to do to stay sober ” and my answer was “anything ” so you and I are not as different as you would have us be , lighten up BOB TAKE THE COTTON OUT OF YOUR EARS AND PUT IT IN YOUR MOUTH FOR GOD SAKES ,accept things as they are and not as BOB would have them be , come on no need to be so mean , maybe your to young to understand the phase “mean what you say , say what you mean but don’t say it mean ” any of this getting in there BOB , I’m 42 years old and live to the best of my ability and my bag o crap I would NOT trade with anyone , I face my life one day at a time not living in yesterday or in tomorrow , ya know rule 62 hot shoot if not look into the tradition a lot more ..God bless you BOB :0
Mike p
Mar 29, 2007 at 10:53 am
AND ONE MORE THING {KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID}
Mark
Mar 29, 2007 at 8:02 pm
Wow… glad I was at work being responsible today. That is just so much spewage that it ought not be worth a retort, but, well, lmao… “Old timers like yourself kill suffering people because of how self-righteous you feel.” Wow! Have we become powerful! Now our feelings are killing people! Not just any people, suffering people!
Ya’ see Mike my friend - control freaks never change. Someone busts their little bs bubble and they go on a tirade of character assassination and ugliness that doesn’t just mimic old behavior, it IS old behavior and we all know where that gets us, don’t we?
It is because of cynical oldtimers that the legacy of AA as it was will be passed on and people will continue to be helped and brought back from a hopeless state of mind, not the other way around there Bob. Not even a nice attempt at a twist.
Remember Mike, they told us that there was no better place to “hear” the disease speak than at a meeting? Well, here is one more place where it trys loud and clear. Poisonous. Venomous. Puke.
The attempt is to convince us all that “Recovered” is the new age of AA! And when we revolt from the attempt at control we hurt their feelings and they re-double their efforts at control.
Page 53! Our egomania (yours Bob) digs two disastrous pitfalls. “Either we insist upon dominating the people we know, or we depend upon them far too much.”
You’re trying to dominate and force your will on us with your “cutesy” (so you think) put downs of our humanity. That is so truly lame you really need to go out and try some controlled drinking. Let us know how you make out because you are on the road to “acute and constant suffering.”
BTW - speaking of self-righteous rhetoric, how about this self-righteous rhetoric? “I dont have to drink/drug anymore.” Not only is that self-righteous, but self-engrandizing and truly arrogant! And you do this in the name of helping people? Liar! Anyone who speaks like that has nothing better than a personal agenda at heart which destroys any semblance of humility. Without humility you/we/us are doomed. In the name of being helpful? That can be nothing more than a lie, bold faced!
Mike p
Mar 29, 2007 at 8:48 pm
well now that we cleaned up the puppy shit off the floor is there any old business ? Y know this is just what goes on when ya go to work, went to home group to nite , had NT been there sense the “hart attack” and at 8:10 no one was sharing at that time last week I was in the throws of what I thought was a panic attack so to to nite I spoke up , it was nice , fell like a newbie have to get rides these days ah its good to be me . Good Nite All
Mark
Mar 29, 2007 at 9:00 pm
Now c’mon Mike, Bob’s liable to take that personal like, ya’ know? Puppy sheeeyite! lol…
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Mike p
Mar 30, 2007 at 8:29 am
ah well for me i frankly do give a @$%^ about this kid, our writing styles are the same LMFAO ya notice?
Mark
Mar 30, 2007 at 4:56 pm
My friend, you know I also care yet I’ll be misunderstood anyway - that’s a large part of my truth and you understand…
And - yes, I had noticed.
How’d the interview go?
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Mike p
Mar 31, 2007 at 8:20 am
yea , last nite almost got into the same thing at a tradition 3 meeting ,everyone lately saying its OK to be and addict and i Frankly stated I don’t go to GA or NA and speak of my drinking problem , same Ole song and dance you know the deal .
Mark
Mar 31, 2007 at 8:28 am
Mike, what I want to avoid, if I can, is getting discouraged that these same alcoholic things happen over and over. I accept that people are going to continue to do this “stuff.” Like Tom Eastwood said, “Accept and Deal.”
I’ll deal… I’ll keep doing what we do - give it back to them RIGHT! If they don’t like it, well, then they can “Accept and Deal!” That’s part of how it worked for us, correct? Those “crusty” oldtimers didn’t cave in to our incessant cr*p did they?
No, thank God!
btw - try going to NA and say “I’m an alcoholic.” See how far that gets ya’ - not! lol…
Mike p
Mar 31, 2007 at 9:15 am
Well like we said before no one changed AA to suite me ! God this group last nite there was a hole lot of talk from the ol timers saying there “PURE ALCOHLICS” This particular meeting is not known for its great tradition meetings away there very confused , but it was close to home and i drove myself ,
Something scary i went to another “thought” post . whats the need to be so driven to put ones info out there for all the world to see ? I mean I ve known you for along time and I don’t feel the need to know your favorite song or color ?Whats with these people thank GOD they didnt have all these distraction early in my sobriety , I journal and think its healthy to do so and have been for years ,but to put my day to day tasks and mundane on the screen ? I just don’t see that helping one only to sleep , I want to leave comments at these places but I really don’t argue well from a key broad ,brings me back to accept and deal like ya said and I rather see and hear it hear there some where else . For me i’ll just keep comin till They ask me to speak at the “BIG , BIG BIG BOOK MEETING ”
Give me call bro, laying low today still very weak :]
Mark
Mar 31, 2007 at 10:08 am
Ha! Rookie! lmao!
1st - “all the world” doesn’t see it on the internet! Just the select few who seek it out or are invited. You, no doubt, cannot conceive the size of this medium you’re writing on, hahaha
2nd - Dude! 42 and you’re so far behind the times??? Wassat all ’bout??? Got some catchin’ up to do eh? bwaaaa ha!
3rd - don’t argue well from a keyboard? (spelling, geeeesh) Oh - so fear has you paralyzed eh? And….. we do what with that? Dammit son, do I have to teach you all this over again? Heart attack hit yer brain eh?
Gotta go to work today, only had the am off. I’ll call ya’ manana…
CS = chicken sheeeeeyite! rotflmao “I’m afraid to leave a comment, sniff…” 8O
Mark
Mar 31, 2007 at 10:10 am
BTW - real quick on a re-read - why so ready to argue? Wassat all about too??? Hmmmmmm???
Mike p
Mar 31, 2007 at 11:55 am
yawn >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>, brain ? missed it “small targaet” LMAO SEEYA
RMStringer
Mar 31, 2007 at 3:22 pm
Dont read if you dont like my post. Very simple.
Mike p
Mar 31, 2007 at 4:04 pm
BOB OH BOB , HOW SAD YOUR LIFE TRULY MUST BE , HERES TWETY BUCKS GO GET ONE WOULD YA , EVEYTHING IS ABOUT YOU ISNT CABLE GUY?
Mike p
Mar 31, 2007 at 4:11 pm
More puppy crap on the floor “maintenance clean up on isle 4″ ” maintenance “
Mark
Mar 31, 2007 at 8:11 pm
Hey! Mr. P.! Let’s practice what we preach here huh?
Don’t get caught up in lowering ourselves too much to someone else’s level. That accomplishes nada.
Call you tomorrow…
You’re so very correct Mr. Stringer. It is simple. Consider it done and consider that your importance just isn’t all that and a slice of bread either.
Mark
Apr 3, 2007 at 8:25 am
Yo! Knucklehead!
Tried to call Sun. No answer, no answering machine. Off Thurs…
Wassup?????
Mike p
Apr 3, 2007 at 10:04 am
Wassup? Teenager that’s wassup . phone permanently attached to her ear. Yea made a work attempt on Monday lasted 3 hrs came home took off today , interview with / the big company today looks good ?
Mark
Apr 8, 2007 at 6:23 am
Happy Easter Mr. P. and all your family…
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